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		<title>Isaiah 40:3 &#8211; Malachi 3:1 &#8211; The Sent Messenger and His Message</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>The voice of one who cries, Prepare you in the wilderness the way of Yahweh; make level in the desert a highway for our God. &#8212; Isaiah 40:3, World English</p>
<p>&#8220;Behold, I send my messenger, and he will prepare the way before [in the face of] me; and the Lord, whom you seek, will suddenly come to his temple; and the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, behold, he comes!&#8221; says Yahweh of hosts. &#8212; Malachi 3:1, World English</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The two prophecies above speak of John the Baptist and his work. Many, in seeing the application of John the Baptist as being the forerunner of Jesus, have thought that these scriptures offer proof that Jesus is Yahweh. This idea, however, is due, in part, to a misreading of what these scriptures are actually saying. We will consider the scriptures in the NT that apply the above two scriptures to John the Baptist and his work.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">In Malachi 3, two messengers are referred to. The first is the messenger who goes before Yahweh, and then there is the other messenger, spoken of as the &#8220;messenger of the covenant. The Hebrew translated &#8220;messenger&#8221; in both instances is malak, angel. Neither of these are of the order of spirit beings that are normally referred to as &#8220;angels&#8221;, but both are messengers for Yahweh. The Lord (adon) whom Israel was seeking was the Messiah, who came suddenly to his temple. He came unexpectedly to test and prove Israel as a people, and as such he came to the temple in Jerusalem, but more specifically, Jesus came to his temple, his church, which has been given to him by his God. &#8212; Ephesians 2:20-22; John 6:37,39; 10:29.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Matthew 3:1-3</strong></p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>In those days, John the Baptizer came, preaching in the wilderness of Judea, saying, &#8220;Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!&#8221; For this is he who was spoken of by Isaiah the prophet, saying, &#8220;The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make ready the way of Yahweh, Make his paths straight.&#8221; &#8212; Holy Name supplied.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Like most quotations of the Old Testament in the New Testament, this is not a direct quote, but an indirect quote. The phrase &#8220;in the wilderness&#8221; is removed from the comand to the people and applied directly to the one who is delivering the message.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">It should be clear here that the one crying in the wilderness is John the Baptizer. He, in effect, tells the people: &#8220;Make ready the way of Yahweh, Make his paths straight.&#8221; The method by which John the Baptist tells the people this message is by his preaching to the people: &#8220;Repent, for the Kingdom of the Heaven is at hand!&#8221; (Matthew 3:1-3; see also Acts 20:21, which shows that repentance is toward God.) In other words, &#8216;The Royal Majesty from heaven is at hand!&#8217; Thus the method in which the people make ready the way of Yahweh, and make his paths straight is through repentance toward Yahweh, in preparation for the one coming in Yahweh&#8217;s name, the one who spoke for Yahweh, the one appointed as King by Yahweh. &#8212; Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Psalm 2:2,6; 45:6,7; 110:1,2; Isaiah 9:6,7; 61:1; Daniel 7:13,14; Matthew 21:9; 23:39; 28:18; Luke 24:19; John 4:25; 5:43; 8:28; 10:25; 12:49,50; Acts 2:34-36; 3:17-26; 5:30,31; Ephesians 1:22; Philippians 2:9-11; Hebrews 1:2,9; 3:1,2.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Some often refer to the verse in Isaiah 40:3 as though the message to prepare the way was actually addressed to John the Baptist, rather than being the words attributed to John the Baptist which are addressed to the people. Thus some would read the prophesy as an address to John the Baptist to prepare the way of Yahweh, who they claim to be Jesus. In reality, in Isaiah, the messenger [John] directs the message to the people of Israel. (Isaiah 40:3, Malachi 3:1 &#8212; see also Genesis 18:19; Proverbs 10:29; Jeremiah 5:4,5) The command given to prepare the way is not to one person, as John the Baptist, but the Hebrew is in the plural, not singular. Thus in Matthew 3, the &#8220;one&#8221; before foretold is John the Baptist, who is the one in the wilderness who declares a message to the people: &#8220;Prepare the way before Yahweh&#8221;, which was a message to the people of repentance toward Yahweh.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Of course, Jesus is the representative of Yahweh, and John did come before Jesus, and did, by means of preaching repentance toward Yahweh, prepare the people to receive Jesus, not as Yahweh the Almighty, but the Anointed One of Yahweh the Almighty, the one whom Yahweh. sent to speak his words in his name. &#8212; Deuteronomy 18:15-20; Isaiah 61:1; Luke 1:32; John 3:16,17; 17:1,3.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Thus, by telling the people to prepare the way of Yahweh by means of repentance toward Yahweh, a way was also being prepared for Jesus, the representative of Yahweh. It could be said that John, in making the way, so to speak, for Jesus, was also preparing the way for the one who sent Jesus. The Messiah was sent by Yahweh as the representative of Yahweh. Those who received him received Yahweh also, just as any who receives a true disciple of Christ, also receives Christ. &#8212; Matthew 21:9; 23:39; Mark 9:37; Luke 2:26; 9:20,48; John 3:17; 4:34; 5:24,30,36-38; 6:29,38-44,57; 7:16,18,28,29,33; 8:16,26,29,42; 9:4; 10:36; 11:42; 12:44-49; 13:20; 17:1,3; Hebrews 1:9.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">One would have to read into the verse that Jesus is Yahweh.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Matthew 11:9,10</strong></p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>But why did you go out? To see a prophet? Yes, I tell you, and much more than a prophet. For this is he, of whom it is written, &#8216;Behold, I send my messenger before your face, who will prepare your way before [in the sight of] you.&#8217;</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Jesus quotes indirectly from Malachi 3:1, and rewords the prophecy. Jesus is speaking to the multitudes of Jews concerning John the Baptist. In verse 9, he uses the plural &#8220;you&#8221; in address of his audience; the same is done verse 11. However, in the reference to the prophecy of Malachi he uses the singular &#8220;your&#8221; and &#8220;you&#8221;. It is possible that by &#8220;your face&#8221; and &#8220;your way before you&#8221;, he is referring to Israel as a whole, and as represented by the multitude whom he was addressing. If so, then Yahweh speaks of sending his messenger (John) to prepare the face and way of Israel in the sight of Israel.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Most commentators present the idea that &#8220;your way&#8221; and &#8220;your face&#8221; refers to Christ&#8217;s face and Christ&#8217;s way. In context, however, &#8220;your&#8221; appears to be referring to those to whom the messenger is sent to, that is, Israel. However, if applied to Yahweh, that is, the way of Yahweh, it would mean that John the Baptist was sent to preach repentance toward Yahweh to the people, as in the other verses. Nevertheless, even if applied to &#8220;Christ&#8217;s way&#8221; the idea that this would mean that Jesus is Yahweh would have to be read into the verse, for the application of the scripture could be applied to Jesus as Yahweh&#8217;s representative, as we will see below.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The fact that a prophecy spoken of Yahweh is fulfilled in one who is the representative of Yahweh is not a new thing. Yahweh says in Exodus 3:8: &#8220;I have come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land to a good and large land, to a land flowing with milk and honey.&#8221; Yahweh himself says that he himself had come down to deliver Israel, but note what is said later to Moses: &#8220;Come now therefore, and I will send you to Pharaoh, that you may bring forth my people, the children of Israel, out of Egypt.&#8221; (Exodus 3:10) Although Moses is used by Yahweh to fulfill the earlier statement, it is apparent that Moses is not Yahweh who sent him. Likewise, with our Lord Jesus: it should be apparent that it is Yahweh who sent Jesus to represent and speak for him, and thus that Jesus is not Yahweh who sent him. &#8212; Deuteronomy 18:15,18; Matthew 23:39; Mark 11:9,10; Luke 13:35; John 3:2,17; 5:19,43; 6:57; 7:16,28; 8:26,28,38; 10:25; 12:49,50; 14:10; 15:15; 17:8,26; Hebrews 1:1,2; Revelation 1:1.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Mark 1:2-5</strong></p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>As it is written in the prophets, &#8220;Behold, I send my messenger before your face, Who will prepare your way before you. 3 The voice of one crying in the wilderness, &#8216;Make ready the way of Yahweh! Make his paths straight!&#8217;&#8221; 4 John came baptizing in the wilderness and preaching the baptism of repentance for forgiveness of sins. 5 There went out to him all the country of Judea, and all those of Jerusalem. They were baptized by him in the Jordan river, confessing their sins. &#8212; Divine name supplied.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Both prophecies are referred to here. Again, it is evident that Mark is making an indirect quotation and rewords the prophecies. Malachi 3:1 is quoted similarly to the same way is quoted in Matthew 11:9,10, which see above. Jesus is the representative of Yahweh, the messenger of the covenant, and also was sent by Yahweh. He is not Yahweh who sent him.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">It was the through the repentance, or the transmentation, of the people that Isaiah 40:3 was being fulfilled. Verse two shows this, in that the messenger directs the message to the people of Israel, who needed to repent before Yahweh. And thereby the people, through their repentance toward God, did prepare the way of Yahweh by making themselves a prepared people before their Messiah (anointed of Yah) was made known to them. &#8212; Acts 20:21.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Please note that it is not only John, who is the messenger to the people, but more importantly the people who prepare the way of Yahweh by means of their repentance. John&#8217;s mission was pre-eminently that of a reprover and reformer, telling the people to prepare the way of Yahweh through repentance toward Yahweh symbolized through water baptism.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">See Matthew 3:1-3 and Matthew 11:9,10 above.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Luke 1:1-4</strong></p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judea, and Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip tetrarch of the region of Ituraea and Trachonitis, and Lysanias tetrarch of Abilene, in the high priesthood of Annas and Caiaphas, the word of God came to John, the son of Zacharias, in the wilderness. He came into all the region around the Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance to remission of sins. As it is written in the book of the words of Isaiah the prophet, &#8220;The voice of one crying in the wilderness, &#8216;Make ready the way of Yahweh. Make his paths straight.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">This is also another indirect quote of Isaiah 40:3. See Matthew 3:1-3 above.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Luke 1:15-17</strong></p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>For he will be great in the sight of Yahweh, and he will drink no wine nor strong drink. He will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother&#8217;s womb. He will turn many of the children of Israel to Yahweh, their God. He will go before his face in the spirit and power of Elijah, &#8216;to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children,&#8217; and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for Yahweh.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Here John is said to make ready a people for Yahweh. This he did by his preaching of repentance toward Yahweh.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">See Matthew 3:1-3 above.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Luke 1:76,77</strong></p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>And you, child, will be called a prophet of the Most High, For you will go before the face of Yahweh to make ready his ways, To give knowledge of salvation to his people by the remission of their sins.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">See Matthew 3:1-3 above.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Luke 7:26,27</strong></p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>But what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you, and much more than a prophet. This is he of whom it is written, &#8216;Behold, I send my messenger before your face, Who will prepare your way before you.&#8217;</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">See Matthew 3:1-3 and Matthew 11:9,10 above.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>John 1:23</strong></p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>He [John the Baptizer] said, &#8220;I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, &#8216;Make straight the way of Yahweh,&#8217; as Isaiah the prophet said.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The same applies here as to the verses already discussed above.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The above examination shows that there is nothing in any of these verses that should lead us to believe that Jesus is Yahweh.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Some Related Writings &#8211; We do not necessarily agree with all conclusions presented by these authors.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">&#8220;Waiting For Messiah&#8221;, Zion&#8217;s Watch Tower, December 1, 1911, page 443, Reprints page 4930<br />
<a href="http://www.agsconsulting.com/htdbnon/r4930b.htm" target="_blank">http://www.agsconsulting.com/htdbnon/r4930b.htm</a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">&#8220;Messenger of Jehovah&#8221;, Zion&#8217;s Watch Tower, December 15, 1905, page 376, Reprints page 3683<br />
<a href="http://www.agsconsulting.com/htdbnon/r3683.htm" target="_blank">http://www.agsconsulting.com/htdbnon/r3683.htm</a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">&#8220;Christ&#8217;s Testimony of John&#8221;, Zion&#8217;s Watch Tower, November 1, 1908, page 368, Reprints page 1736<br />
<a href="http://www.agsconsulting.com/htdbnon/r1736.htm" target="_blank">http://www.agsconsulting.com/htdbnon/r1736.htm</a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">&#8220;Preparing the Way&#8221;, The Dawn &#8211; Herald of Christ&#8217;s Presence, February 2002<br />
<a href="http://www.dawnbible.com/2002/0212ib29.htm " target="_blank">http://www.dawnbible.com/2002/0212ib29.htm </a></p>
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		<title>Yahweh sent the Messiah (Isaiah 61:1)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Isaiah 61:1 &#8211; <span>The Spirit of the Lord Yahweh is on me; because Yahweh has anointed me to preach  good news to the humble; he has sent me to bind up the broken-hearted, to  proclaim liberty to the captives, and</span>&#8230; <a href="http://godandson.reslight.net/archives/591.html" class="read_more">Read [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isaiah 61:1 &#8211; <span>The Spirit of the Lord Yahweh is on me; because Yahweh has anointed me to preach  good news to the humble; he has sent me to bind up the broken-hearted, to  proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening [of the prison] to those who  are bound. &#8212; World English Bible translation.</span></p>
<p>The above scripture is sometimes offered as proof of the trinity, evidently simply because Yahweh is mentioned, and the spirit of Yahweh is mentioned, and the one sent by Yahweh is mentioned. The trinitarian has to imagine and assume that &#8220;Yahweh&#8221; to be referring to one person of their idea of the &#8220;one Yahweh&#8221; (Deuteronomy 6:8) of three persons, while the spirit of Yahweh to be referring another person of the one Yahweh of three persons, and the one sent by Yahweh would have to be thought of as another person of the one Yahweh of three persons.  All of this has to imagined, thought, &#8220;beyond the things which are written&#8221; (1 Corinthians 4:8), and then added to, and read into what is written, although it seems that most trinitarians rarely try to reason their own belief out when they look at scriptures such as this.</p>
<p>Actually, the one Yahweh is here completely distinguished from the one sent by Yahweh. Nor is the spirit of Yahweh depicted as a person of Yahweh to whom that spirit belongs.</p>
<p>As the scripture reads, it was Yahweh &#8212; one person &#8212; who anointed the one sent, thus making the one sent the Messiah (anointed one) of Yahweh. This agrees with the rest of the Bible. Yahweh is always presented as one person, and never is Yahweh presented as more than one person.</p>
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		<title>Isaiah 7:14 &#8211; Immanuel (Redirect Link)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Isaiah 9:6 &#8211; Not a Series of Names</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be on his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. &#8212; Isaiah 9:6, World English.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Most translations give Isaiah 9:6 similarly to World English translation as above. As a result, in the mind many readers the singular &#8220;name&#8221; is thought of as &#8220;names&#8221;, not a singular name.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">All through the entire Bible, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is depicted as one person. The Son of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Abraham, is never depicted as being the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is identified in Hebrews 1:1,2 as a unipersonal God who<a href="http://godandson.reslight.net/?p=772" target="_blank"> speaks through His son</a>.  In Acts 3:13-26, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is identified as the unipersonal God who raised up Jesus as a prophet like Moses, and who raised Jesus from death. This unipersonal God, spoken of in Isaiah 9:7, gives to his Son a singular name, not a series of &#8220;names.&#8221; That one name that the unipersonal Yahweh gives to his Son is: <a href="http://godandson.reslight.net/?p=537" target="_blank"><strong>Pelejoezelgibborabiaadarshalom</strong></a>. Such a name given to a person or thing often describes God, and this singular name is given the meaning: “Wonderful in counsel is God the Mighty, the everlasting Father, the Ruler of peace.”However, even if the phrase<a href="http://godandson.reslight.net/?p=26" target="_blank"> EL GIBBOR</a> should be applied as singular title to the one sent by Yahweh (Isaiah 61:1), it still does not mean that this title is being applied to the Messiah as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, <a href="http://godandson.reslight.net/?p=1084" target="_blank">who sent the Messiah</a>. (Isaiah 61:1) In keeping with the <a href="http://godandson.reslight.net/?p=19" target="_blank">Hebrew usage</a> of forms of the word EL as applied persons or things other than Yahweh, it would simply mean that the Messiah is called a &#8220;mighty one of strength.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Isaiah 61:1 &#8212; The Spirit of Yahweh On the Anointed One</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>The Spirit of the Lord Yahweh is on me; because Yahweh has anointed me to preach good news to the humble; he has sent me to bind up the broken-hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening [of the prison] to those who are bound. &#8212; Isaiah 61:1, World English.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Isaiah 61:1 is often cited by trinitarians as an alleged reference to the trinity in the Old Testament. The claim is that all three alleged persons of the alleged triune God are mentioned in this verse, and thus it is claimed as a reference to the trinity. Actually there is nothing in the verse at all about the trinity, nor is there any reference to three persons of the alleged trinity.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">What we do find is that, Yahweh, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Exodus 3:15) is being presented unipersonally as He is all throughout the Bible. Yahweh is not presented as three persons, so what the trinitarian has to imagine and assume regarding the verse is that &#8220;Yahweh&#8221; is not speaking of the three persons of &#8220;Yahweh&#8221;, but only of the assumed &#8220;first person&#8221; of their assumed trinitarian dogma, and read their assumption into what is being said.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Then as respects the one being anointed by Yahweh, they have imagine and assume that this is really the second person of Yahweh being anointed by the assumed first person of Yahweh, and then they have add that assumption to, and read that assumption into, what is actually said.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Then as respects the spirit by which is placed upon the one anointed, the trinitarian has to imagine and assume that &#8220;spirit&#8221; is speaking of their imagined &#8220;third person&#8221; of Yahweh, and that therefore the assumed third person of Yahweh is placed by the assumed first person of Yahweh upon the assumed second person of Yahweh, and then all of these assumptions have to added to, and read into, what is being stated.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">So what the trinitarian actually presents as evidence of the trinity, is not what is actually said in the scripture, but what has to be imagined, assumed, added to, and read into, what is said in the scripture.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">In reality, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Yahweh) is presented here as He is presented throughout both the Old and New Testaments, that is as one person, and the one anointed by that one person is exclusive of Yahweh who anointed him.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The spirit of Yahweh is put on the one anointed. The expression itself indicates that this is not a person; it is, however,<a href="http://godandson.reslight.net/?p=980" target="_blank"> the personal power</a> of the one to whom the spirit belongs to. There is no indication, here or anywhere else in the Bible, that the personal spirit of Yahweh is a separate and distinct person of Yahweh.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">God, by means of his holy spirit, reveals through the scriptures that Yahweh (Jehovah) is unipersonally the only true God, <a href="../?p=263" target="_blank">the God and Father of the Lord Jesus</a>. Jesus has One who is the Supreme Being over him; Jesus is not his Supreme Being whom he worships, prays to, and who sent him, and whose will he carried out in willful obedience. &#8212; Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Matthew 4:4 (Deuteronomy 8:3; Luke 4:4); Matthew 4:7 (Deuteronomy 6:16); Matthew 4:10 (Exodus 20:3-5; 34:14; Deuteronomy 6:13,14; 10:20; Luke 4:8); Matthew 22:29-40; Matthew 26:42; Matthew 27:46; Mark 10:6 (Genesis 1:27; Genesis 2:7,20-23); Mark 14:36; 15:34; Luke 22:42; John 4:3; 5:30; 6:38; 17:1,3; 20:17; Romans 15:6; 2 Corinthians 1:3; 11:31; Ephesians 1:3,17; Hebrews 1:9; 10:7; 1 Peter 1:3; Revelation 2:7; 3:2,12.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">God, by means of his holy spirit, reveals through the scriptures that Jesus is anointed [made christ, the anointed one] by his unipersonal God, Yahweh. He is not Yahweh who thus anoints him. — Psalm 2:2; 45:7; Isaiah 61:1; Acts 2:36; 4:27; 10:38.</p>
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		<title>Isaiah 64:8 &#8211; The Potter, Father of Israel</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>But now, Yahweh, you are our Father; we are the clay, and you our potter; and we all are the work of your hand. &#8212; Isaiah 64:8 <strong><em>World English</em></strong><em></em>.</p></blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>But now, Yahweh, you are our Father; we are the clay, and you our potter; and we all are the work of your hand. &#8212; Isaiah 64:8 <strong><em>World English</em></strong><em></em>.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">This is one of the scriptures that trinitarians present with the thought that the alleged first person of their alleged trinity is being spoken of in this verse. While it is true that Yahweh is called father in the verse, nevertheless, it is also true that one has imagine, assume and read into this that Yahweh is being called &#8220;father&#8221; in the trinitarian sense. The trinitarian, who claims that Yahweh is three persons, would have to imagine and assume that Yahweh is being presented here, not as three persons, but as one person, that is, the so-called &#8220;first person&#8221; of their imagined triune God. Indeed, Yahweh is being presented in this scripture as one person, as he always presented throughout the Bible, and indeed, that one unipersonal God is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Yahweh, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, is not once presented as more than one person in the Bible.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Many presume that Isaiah is speaking of the creation of man; the context, however, shows that he is speaking of Israel as a nation. The molding for that nation is by means of the law covenant; that law covenant, which would have brought life to any who obeyed, only proved that, due to the weakness of sinful flesh, that all men are sinners who cannot justify themselves by keeping that Law. None of Israel were being made alive under the Law Covenant, and certainly Israel as whole did not become a sinless new creation by keeping the Law. Thus, Yahweh is not being spoken of as the Father of Israel in the same sense as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is called the God and Father of Jesus, and the Father of the new creation spoken of in the New Testament. Yahweh was figuratively father to Israel because he formed them, as a potter forms a pot from clay, into nation under the Law Covenant. It is only relative to His creating, figuratively begetting, bringing forth, the children of Israel as a nation under the Law Covenant that Yahweh is being spoken of as father in this verse.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">There is definitely, however, nothing in the usage of &#8220;father&#8221; in Isaiah 64:8 that is designating Yahweh as the first person of a assumed triune God. Such a God is never spoken of anywhere in the Bible.</p>
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		<title>Isaiah 63:16 &#8211; You Are Our Father</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>For you are our Father, though Abraham doesn&#8217;t know us, and Israel does not acknowledge us: you, Yahweh, are our Father; our Redeemer from everlasting is your name. &#8212; Isaiah 63:16, <em><strong>World English.</strong></em></p></blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>For you are our Father, though Abraham doesn&#8217;t know us, and Israel does not acknowledge us: you, Yahweh, are our Father; our Redeemer from everlasting is your name. &#8212; Isaiah 63:16, <em><strong>World English.</strong></em></p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Some trinitarians present this scripture with the thought that Yahweh is being called &#8220;Father&#8221; in this verse as the alleged first person of the alleged trinune God. Thus the scripture is often listed as a reference to the trinity in the Old Testament. This application requires the trinitarian to imagine and assume that &#8220;Yahweh&#8221; &#8212; the God of Israel &#8212; in the surrounding verses is not speaking of all of three alleged persons of their alleged triune God, but only one person of their alleged triune God, that is their alleged first person of the triune God.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Some however, apply the redemption being spoken of to Jesus, as Jesus is spoken of as the savior, the redeemer of the world, in the New Testament. This application would assume that Father refers to the assumed first person of the assumed triune God, while &#8220;redeemer&#8221; applies to the assumed second person of the assumed triune God. In actuality, what is written does no split redeemer from father, since it plainly refers to the father of Israel as the redeemer of Israel.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">In context Yahweh is being spoken of as the Father of Israel because he delivered them from Egypt and brought them forth as a nation; this is what is spoken of in the context. Yahweh is not being spoken of as in the New Testament terminology in reference to being the Father of Jesus, and the Father of the sons of God, the new creation. The nation of Israel, although it could be said to a new creation as far as being a new nation is concerned, was not a new creation as respects having been created separate from the present sun of vanity and its crooked, bondage of corruption. (Ecclesiastes 1:2,9,13-15; 7:13; Romans 8:1,14,15,20-22; 2 Corinthians 5:17; Philippians 2:15)</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">It is only as a nation that Yahweh was a figuratively a father &#8212; a life-giver &#8212; to Israel, having delivered them, figuratively begotten them, bring them forth from bondage to Egypt.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">From the setting as described in context, it becomes apparent that &#8220;father&#8221; as used here is not even used in the same sense as it is usually used in the New Testament of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; much less is it being used as the first person of a triune God that is no where presented in the Bible at all. However, this does not negate any antitypical application as applied to the new creation. Nevertheless, even if were being used in the same sense, it would still offer nothing related a trinity in the Old Testament; the idea of trinity, as in all the so-called &#8220;trinitarian&#8221; proof texts, has to be imagined beyond what is written, assutmed, added to, and read into what is actually stated.</p>
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